FAQs
The FAQs will be regularly updated to reflect emerging themes and common questions received throughout the engagement process.
DECISION
+ Why is this happening now? Why QEA?
The recommendation to close a school is not taken lightly and is being made in alignment with Board policy and informed by data. District staff have recommended this closure to the Board to ensure responsible use of resources to benefit all students while prioritizing education opportunities for Queen Elizabeth Annex (QEA) students..
This school site has been previously identified for closure. Although each instance had specific circumstances, the District has noted each time that the QEA site is not required based on enrollment numbers. There are enough schools in the area to meet the needs of the population now and into the future.
Most recently, when QEA was proposed for closure in 2019, some members of the Board expressed a desire to approve an updated Long Range Facilities Plan prior to considering any school closure. In January 2021, the Board approved an updated plan. The plan outlines the District’s responsibility to manage its facilities in an efficient and effective way.
The District also acknowledges that the outstanding legal proceedings and as well as the potential for revenue generation to fund capital projects are related and time-sensitive factors for the Board to consider. It is important to note, however, that a decision about the future use of the QEA site is a separate decision that could come should the Board make the decision to close the school.
Go to rational for closure for more information.
+ Is this the start of closing down other small schools, such as other annexes?
No other annexes have currently been identified for closure consideration.
Board policy 14 outlines the process through which a school would be identified for closure consideration. It includes senior management making such a recommendation at a public Board meeting and communicating such a recommendation to affected school communities.
+ When will you begin public engagement?
Public engagement is currently underway. Please visit the project page for details about how you can participate.
+ Who is making the decision to close the school and when will that occur?
The Board of Education, which is made up of nine elected trustees, will be making the decision.At this time no decision has been made. The Board will consider public and stakeholder feedback obtained through the engagement process before making its decision. The decision is scheduled to be made by the Boardat a public meeting on May 30, 2022.
For more information, view this detailed timeline about the closure process.
+ How will my feedback be used in the decision?
The District is committed to being open, transparent and keeping the community informed in advance as much as possible throughout this public engagement process.
The District will provide participants with meaningful opportunities to share their feedback to be considered by the Board as part of their decision-making process. The District invites all families, stakeholders and members of the public to participate in the engagement activities.
The Board will consider public and stakeholder feedback obtained through the engagement process before making a decision.
REASONING FOR THE PROPOSED CLOSURE OF QEA
+ What are the primary reasons for the proposed closure?
District staff have recommended the Board consider the closure of QEA to ensure responsible use of resources to benefit all students while prioritizing education opportunities for Queen Elizabeth Annex (QEA) students.
Closing the QEA school site ensures responsible use of resources to benefit all students. QEA has high operating costs. Costs to operate QEA are 40 % higher ($11,288 per student in 2019) than the provincial per student allocation of $7,885. Closing QEA would result in significant operational savings of between $150K to $300K annually, which could be re-allocated into programs and services supporting students across the District.
Closing the QEA school site prioritizes student learning. The proposed closure would guarantee QEA students ongoing placement in the French immersion program. Bringing QEA students together with students at JQ or QE creates a larger learning community that will increase their access to shared school resources and school-wide activities, as well as enhance opportunities for teacher collaboration. Moving QEA to JQ allows for more robust French programming and reduces one transition for QEA students who currently continue their French immersion program at JQ from grades 4-7.
Go to rational for closure for more information.
+ If other neighbourhoods need a new school, why can’t the provincial government fund it? Why does the school district have to be responsible for funding it?
The Province is responsible for funding new school construction for all 60 school districts. School Districts may be asked to contribute up to 50 per cent of for the cost to build a new school or expansion to an existing school.
The Vancouver School District’s enrolment numbers have been declining since 1997. In the last 10 years enrolment has declined by approximately 8.4 per cent, totalling 4,400 fewer students. School utilization is a one factor the province considers in allocating capital funding.
+ I’m concerned about losing the community connection experienced only through smaller schools. How will the district maintain the social emotional well-being of students who need a smaller school setting?
The District has heard from some parents that they like the small learning community at Queen Elizabeth Annex.
It is important to note there is a difference between being in a larger school compared to being in a larger class. Class size composition will remain the same, as per the Ministry of Education guidelines. Students will have access to more resources and learning opportunities in a larger school community.
Go to educational impacts for more information.
+ Why are you targeting small schools? I believe my child learns betters in a smaller school environment.
In 2021 the Board approved the findings from the Preferred School Size Working Group, that the preferred size range for elementary schools is 300-550 students. The group found that schools in the preferred size range increases students access to shared school resources and school-wide activities, as well as increased opportunities for collaboration between teachers, ultimately benefiting students.
+ Should the Board decide to close the school, how will you use the land? Will you sell or lease of the property? How much does the District expect to make?
No decision has been about the school closure. Before the Board can consider the sale or lease (disposal) of a site they must first make the decision on the proposed school closure.
If the Board decides to close the school, they would then be in a position to consider disposal of the site as per Board Policy 20 - Disposal of land or improvements.
Go to potential future revenue for more information.
DATA AND PROJECTIONS
+ Can you explain the population projections?
Administrative data sources including, district enrolment reports, the birth registry from Vital Statistics BC, and the Universal Child Care Benefit recipient data from CRA are used to develop forecasting assumptions. These forecasting assumptions are used to project youth population estimates and enrolment projections which are updated annually.
Census data is not used in the Distist’s projects because it is collected every 5 years is not sufficiently sensitive to provide reliable or accurate youth population and enrolment forecasts.
For additional information see 2020 LRFP – Chapter 4 Enrolment Forecasts
+ Why don’t you include long term, 20 to 30 year projections like the City of Vancouver will release for 2050?
All projections are based on a set of assumptions that changes over time. The City does provide long-range aggregate population forecasts for large areas or the entire city from time to time.
It would be feasible to make a long-range forecast of youth population and enrolment for the entire district-based on assumptions about birth rate and migration trends. There is a 25 year history of enrolment decline at VSB schools while the population of the City of Vancouver and UBC/UEL have grown steadily. The long-range forecast would show a continuation of the long-established trend of enrolment decline that mirrors the decline in youth population that Vancouver is experiencing.
The District has 79 elementary, and 18 secondary school catchments. Detailed catchment level forecasting on a time horizon of longer than 10-15 years would lack both accuracy and reliability. The district mitigates uncertainty about the future through a capital planning process that emphasizes designing for flexibility and adaptability in facilities that will be in use for many decades.
+ How will you accommodate the future growth of Jericho Lands and UBC/University Endowment lands (UEL)?
Future areas of development, including the Jericho lands and UBC/UEL, have been taken into consideration as part of the recommendation to close QEA.
The District is well positioned to foresee, adapt, and respond to increases in the youth population from any development in future decades.
For more details of how the District will accommodate future growth in these area, see Future Development
+ Why not expand the program? QEA has space for it.
Based on the decline in demand, there are currently no plans to expand the French immersion program on the west side of Vancouver. The District will continue to maintain the program at its current level. This aligns with the Board approved, 2018 French Program Review which states the District should endeavour to “match the supply of French Immersion sites to levels of demand around the District”.
More information is available on the program expansion page.
+ How many families register to attend QEA?
JQ and QEA are considered one French immersion program because QEA is the feeder school to JQ. That said, during the application process, families are given the option to advise if they prefer to attend JQ, QEA or either. The following table shows the French immersion application for QEA/JQ.
Note: In 2022, all 65 families who opted to enroll at JQ/QEA as their first choice were offered a spot in the French immersion program.
Preference JQ QEA Blank - no choice Total First-choice 45 20 0 65 Second-choice 25 14 1 40 Third-choice 32 5 4 41 + I am concerned about overcrowding at JQ, both indoors and outdoors. Could you please share JQ’s floor plan?
JQ has sufficient existing classroom space and outdoor space to accommodate all students from QEA. Based on enrolment forecasts, the school will not be overcrowded. To see how the school is currently utilized and how it will accommodate additional students if QEA closes, visit space use
In the interest of ensuring student safety the District does not publicize school floor plans.
+ Has there been any investigation into the seismic upgrade cost of QEA?
QEA is not prioritized for government funding for seismic upgrade in the 5 year capital plan submission. The District has 33 elementary schools that are at high seismic risk. The mandate of the Seismic Mitigation Program (SMP) is to provide sufficient seismically safe capacity to accommodate VSB enrolment as quickly and cost effectively as possible. The District does not anticipate that QEA will ever be prioritized or funded for a seismic upgrade under the mandate of the SMP.
+ What drives a higher cost per student at QEA
The annual cost per student to attend QEA is $11,288 (based on a 2019 analysis). This is approximately 40 per cent higher than the provincial enrollment allocation of $7,885 per student. This is a function of having to operate a free standing building and the staffing associated with it for 71 students. Although there are low student numbers the site still requires custodial staffing, supervision staff, office staff, and administrative staff. In addition, the low student numbers mean that it is not possible to create efficient class organizations for the assignment of teaching staff.
+ QE has the same seismic risks as JQ. Why are you proposing QEA students move to a more unsafe building?
The District is seeking input on two possible locations for the K-3 French immersion program currently located at QEA as part of the public engagement.
One option is to accommodate QEA students at JQ. JQ was seismically upgraded in 2011. The other option is to accommodate the QEA students at QE. Both QE and QEA have the same seismic risk rating. Increasing enrolment at QE may strengthen the rationale for a future seismic upgrade of QE. Go to building information for more details.
+ Can you explain how the district will save operation costs when most of it is made up of staff salaries. Are you letting go of QEA staff as a result of the closure?
Staff at QEA are employed by the District, not the school. Although staff assigned to QEA would lose their position at that site, in the event of a closure, they would continue to be employed by the Board and would be assigned to another District site.
Over 90 per cent of the annual operating revenue is allocated to staff salaries and benefits. The closure of QEA would facilitate more efficient and effective use of staff because the total staff count in the District would be lowered. That said, it is important to note no staff would be terminated should the Board decide to close the school. The District loses a number staff to regular attrition annually for reasons such as retirement or relocation changes. Instead of replacing the full attrition rate, staff at the QEA site would fill those positions instead.
+ How will you maintain kindergarten access, when JQ is dropping down to two classes?
French immersion is a District choice program. Should the Board decide to close QEA, the number of French immersion cohorts throughout the District will remain the same. Even though JQ may intake two kindergarten cohorts instead of three in some years, the total number of cohorts admitted into westside French immersion schools will stay constant at seven cohorts per year.
+ Why is enrolment data different between the Ministry or the City, which demonstrates growth?
The Ministry of Education relies on school districts to provide enrolment forecasts for to support both financial forecasting and capital planning. The Ministry does publish enrolment forecasts that are based on data collected through the census process every five years. Census data has been shown to be insufficiently sensitive to reliably and accurately forecast enrolment. The Ministry of Education does not publish catchment level enrolment forecasts. The District has a data sharing agreement with the City of Vancouver and works in collaboration with City planning staff regularly. The City does not have its own data sources for birth rates, youth population, or enrolment and relies on the District for this information. Further information on the enrolment forecasting is available from the 2020 Long Range Facilities Plan – Chapter 4. This chapter also provides information on how the District validates its enrolment forecasts.
RELOCATION OF THE PROGRAM, SHOULD THE BOARD DECIDE TO CLOSE QEA
+ Are JQ and QE the only options being considered should the proposed school closure go through? Will other site options be explored?
Given the educational benefits and available space at JQ and QE, District staff are recommending these two schools as viable options. That said, there will be an option to identify an alternative site in engagement survey. Staff will consider nearby options, pending available space at the receiving school.
+ If the Board decides to close the school, how will you support QEA students in the transition to a new school? How will you address the loss of a tight-knit community?
If the Board decides to close QEA the District is committed to working with families to ensure plans are in place to support students in making a successful transition to the new school site.
+ Vancouver District’s Policy 20, Disposal of Land or Improvements — which directs the district to “not sell school lands but maintain or increase current number of school sites to preserve neighbourhood sites for current and future educational and community use”. If the Board decides to close the schools and sell or lease the land for 99 years to CSF, doesn’t that contradict your own policy?
Policy 20 restriction pertains to the sale of land or improvements. A long-term lease would be permitted under this policy restriction.
+ Who decides where the program will be relocated to? What timeline can families anticipate on the relocation announcement and transition?
The proposed school closure must follow Board policy and timelines. The Board will consider staff recommendation and public feedback obtained through the engagement process before making its decision. The final decision will be made by the Board at a public meeting, scheduled for June 6, 2022.
If the Board decides to close the school staff will then decide where the program will be relocated, JQ or QE, or consider another site identified through the engagement process. In making this decision staff will consider the educational benefits of each of site and will also take into consideration feedback received through the engagement process.
If the Board decides to close QEA, there is a full school year to work with staff, students and families to ensure plans are in place to support students in making a successful transition to the new school site.
+ How will you manage traffic congestion at receiving schools? Both schools are near a busy road, how will you ensure pedestrian safety?
The District will work with the school community and the City of Vancouver to put in place plans to address concerns relating to increased traffic at pick up and drop off times at either JQ or QE.
At JQ, there is:
- a pedestrian activated stop light at 16th Ave and Crown street
- a pedestrian cross walk at 15th Ave and Crown Street
- speed bumps on Crown street, from 14th Ave to 16th Ave
- a large drop off area on school grounds on 16th Ave
- school patrol at 14th Ave and Crown street, as recommended through regular consultation with VPD and City of Vancouver
JQ is also part of the School Streets program, where there is car free streets adjacent to school.
At QE, there is:
- pedestrian activated stop light at 16th Ave and Camosun Street
- Speed bumps along Camosun street
- Staff parking patrol during drop off and pick up times